Comments on: BASECAMP – 37Signals & RoR one of Web 2.0’s Best Start-up Businesses http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/ News For Web Developers Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:30:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: real estate web secrets. http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-6817 real estate web secrets. Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:22:13 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-6817 I think this article is a guide for beginners in real estate business. I think this article is a guide for beginners in real estate business.

]]> By: puya http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-4013 puya Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:03:36 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-4013 This website, (although I'm not a big fac of the name) lists a lot of basecamp spinofs and alternatives, might be worth a visit: http://www.whybasecampsux.org/ This website, (although I’m not a big fac of the name) lists a lot of basecamp spinofs and alternatives, might be worth a visit:
http://www.whybasecampsux.org/

]]> By: Jeffrey Scott -TypeHost Web Development http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3882 Jeffrey Scott -TypeHost Web Development Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:03:08 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3882 "Unfuddle, a project management solution for software development, is now using Amazon EC2 and S3 for virtually 100% of its infrastructure, including web and database servers. Unfuddle makes extensive use of EBS volumes and snapshots which has completely transformed their backup process. Read the full story." http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/unfuddle/ http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2331 “Unfuddle, a project management solution for software development, is now using Amazon EC2 and S3 for virtually 100% of its infrastructure, including web and database servers. Unfuddle makes extensive use of EBS volumes and snapshots which has completely transformed their backup process. Read the full story.”

http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/unfuddle/

http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2331

]]> By: Aaron D. Campbell http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3831 Aaron D. Campbell Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:20:12 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3831 It looks like <a href="http://www.activecollab.com/" rel="nofollow">activeCollab</a> is an option, but it costs $200-400, you need to host it yourself, and it costs $100-200/yr for support. It's definitely less expensive, and I like the idea of hosting it myself, but at the same time I like not ever having to worry about Basecamp. I think I might try out the demos though and see. It looks like activeCollab is an option, but it costs $200-400, you need to host it yourself, and it costs $100-200/yr for support. It’s definitely less expensive, and I like the idea of hosting it myself, but at the same time I like not ever having to worry about Basecamp. I think I might try out the demos though and see.

]]> By: Jeffrey Scott -TypeHost Web Development http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3822 Jeffrey Scott -TypeHost Web Development Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:59:48 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3822 Looking at start-ups launched at the Web 2.0 conference last year, there were a lot of new project management and online collaboration sites targeted at software / web development groups. oDesk also has a great site, but as mentioned, many of my freelance clients request Basecamp or already have their own Basecamp environment for managing multiple projects like Aaron. I think a nice business model is to combine the two - the networking, freelance, and outsourcing of oDesk (around $130 million in sales,, 10% commission) with the project management tools of Basecamp. Or alternatively, could Basecamp generate similar traffic to oDesk or eLance if they operated an outsourcing / freelance board on their site? What if they added careers, recruiting, and job posts? Another big market. If everything is scalabale on cloud models, you have the opportunity for cloud apps markets like the iPhone store on the same domain. Maybe simplicity is Basecamp's key to success and all of the extra functions and site sections would dilute their main offerings, but my estimate is there is a lot of potential to expand after achieving the market share & brand identity that Basecamp has currently. Looking at start-ups launched at the Web 2.0 conference last year, there were a lot of new project management and online collaboration sites targeted at software / web development groups. oDesk also has a great site, but as mentioned, many of my freelance clients request Basecamp or already have their own Basecamp environment for managing multiple projects like Aaron. I think a nice business model is to combine the two – the networking, freelance, and outsourcing of oDesk (around $130 million in sales,, 10% commission) with the project management tools of Basecamp. Or alternatively, could Basecamp generate similar traffic to oDesk or eLance if they operated an outsourcing / freelance board on their site? What if they added careers, recruiting, and job posts? Another big market. If everything is scalabale on cloud models, you have the opportunity for cloud apps markets like the iPhone store on the same domain. Maybe simplicity is Basecamp’s key to success and all of the extra functions and site sections would dilute their main offerings, but my estimate is there is a lot of potential to expand after achieving the market share & brand identity that Basecamp has currently.

]]> By: Aaron D. Campbell http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3821 Aaron D. Campbell Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:40:36 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3821 I'd definitely like to see it! Maybe a list of good options. The problem is that once you have been using a solution for a while, it's a REAL pain to switch. You need to retrain people, migrate all the existing data PLUS months or years worth of older data (if you want historical records). Re-create documentation, etc. Something would need to be a LOT better. For now, I'm not in too deep, but in 6 months that won't be the case anymore! I’d definitely like to see it! Maybe a list of good options. The problem is that once you have been using a solution for a while, it’s a REAL pain to switch. You need to retrain people, migrate all the existing data PLUS months or years worth of older data (if you want historical records). Re-create documentation, etc. Something would need to be a LOT better. For now, I’m not in too deep, but in 6 months that won’t be the case anymore!

]]> By: Biba http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3820 Biba Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:36:23 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3820 Maybe 37 Signals has the greatest market share at this point, but I must agree with Joseph that it won't stop others to develop even better software. Actually, I am convinced that there is better software for project management than Basecamp, but Basecamp are on the market for so long and people simply know them and trust them and won't "experiment" with others. Maybe 37 Signals has the greatest market share at this point, but I must agree with Joseph that it won’t stop others to develop even better software.
Actually, I am convinced that there is better software for project management than Basecamp, but Basecamp are on the market for so long and people simply know them and trust them and won’t “experiment” with others.

]]> By: Aaron D. Campbell http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3812 Aaron D. Campbell Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:36:10 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3812 I agree with Joseph, and would like to add that I think 37signals has also hit what I call "critical mass". Basically, they have enough market share to be a big player. This draws the attention of other companies, who <a href="http://www.basecamphq.com/extras" rel="nofollow">develop their products to work with basecamp</a>. That's some serious added value for customers, and 37 signals just has to maintain a functional API. I agree with Joseph, and would like to add that I think 37signals has also hit what I call “critical mass”. Basically, they have enough market share to be a big player. This draws the attention of other companies, who develop their products to work with basecamp. That’s some serious added value for customers, and 37 signals just has to maintain a functional API.

]]> By: Joseph C Lawrence http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3711 Joseph C Lawrence Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:35:25 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3711 Basecamp is arguably the best web based project management system out there, but that won't stop someone else developing a better one, or marketing one better, and eating into 37signals' market share. However, I think what will keep 37signals at the top of the game is their dedication to innovation and adding to their suite of applications. If they keep listening to users, and pre-empting demands by coming up with great solutions that all integrate together, then their package as a whole will continue to lead the field. Basecamp is arguably the best web based project management system out there, but that won’t stop someone else developing a better one, or marketing one better, and eating into 37signals’ market share. However, I think what will keep 37signals at the top of the game is their dedication to innovation and adding to their suite of applications. If they keep listening to users, and pre-empting demands by coming up with great solutions that all integrate together, then their package as a whole will continue to lead the field.

]]> By: Jeffrey Scott of TypeHost http://webdevnews.net/2009/03/basecamp-37signals-ror-one-of-web-20s-best-start-up-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-3709 Jeffrey Scott of TypeHost Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:05:55 +0000 http://webdevnews.net/?p=426#comment-3709 Ravy - I noticed last year that a lot of the start-ups promoting at seminars were pitching new versions of project management and online collaboration suites for development teams - it is undoubtedly a big market and constantly innovating. But, there are so many social networking sites, are you worried they will be a big detriment to Facebook? After a certain point, a company emerges and defines a market - I think that is what Basecamp has done recently. Ravy – I noticed last year that a lot of the start-ups promoting at seminars were pitching new versions of project management and online collaboration suites for development teams – it is undoubtedly a big market and constantly innovating. But, there are so many social networking sites, are you worried they will be a big detriment to Facebook? After a certain point, a company emerges and defines a market – I think that is what Basecamp has done recently.

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